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Here is a small piece that I did to stir minds on another web site. I am wittnessing to several there, and some have even started reading Ray Capt's books.

Are Christians Commanded Bare Arms?
Luke 22:36 “And He said to them, "But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one.”

Luke 11:21 “21"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.”

Are Christians commanded to bare arms? It is clear from the passages above, is it not? Christ commanded His Apostles to, “sell his coat and buy one”. I have heard many in judeo-Christiandom say, “He was speaking of the sword of the Word of God mentioned in Ephesians. But does that reconcile with the above scriptures? Was it the sword of the Word that Peter used to slice of the ear of the guard? Of coarse not, it was a razor sharp sword, and he knew how to use it. In fact, I believe that he was swinging for the guard’s neck to lop off his head and the guard just barley got himself out of the way!!

About the sword that Christ The King commanded His men to obtain, was it not just the same as all of the swords carried by Caesar’s soldiers? Or was it simple “Saturday Night Special” sword that had been neutered for use by the populace? No!! It was the nearest thing to a rifle or a handgun of today. It could be carried on the waist, rapidly drawn from its scabbard, and used for personal defense or deadly offensive purposes. It was a lethal weapon that was equivalent a pistol, rifle and yes, EVEN AN ASSAULT RIFLE. When you carried a sword your were as well armed as Caesar’s boys.

Some may contend that this was a commandment only for the Apostles. Yet, the Word of God says that Christ told them to teach us, “to observe ALL that I have commanded you.” Yes, commanded!! Why? Here is one reason. 1st Timothy 5:8 says: “But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” How is a Christian man to provide for his wife and family if he disobeys Christ’s command to buy a modern day equivalent to a sword? Depend on the police? I think we all realize that they are only there to take a report, after the crime has been commited.

We are told in the New Testament that we should learn and instruct from the teaching of the Old Testament. (Romans 15:4) We can read in 1st Samuel 13:19-22 that the Phillistines had a unique way of oppressing our forefathers. It was called SWORD CONTROL. “There is nothing new under the sun”, is there?

There is a book that I would recomend, a history book entitled, "The Drama of The Lost Diciples". It documents the will of the Christians that established the first church in Britain as they fought the Romans. The sheer determination of even the women as they fought struck fear in the hearts of Romes veteran warriors. Its a good read for those interested in the early history of the Christains.



Prayer:
Heavenly Father, I have failed in teaching the truth to the brethren concerning your command to be armed. Father, awaken Your people that they may “provide” for their own, and their posterity, and their posterities future. To leave in this nation, an inheritance for our children, and their children, as we are comanded in Proverbs 13:22, "A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children:.."
In Jesus Christ’s Name, Amen.

I love those verses. I feel this rendering fits right in:

Mar 3:27; "No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house."

Let's all remain unbound.

As a new member, I agree to a point, but would ask this- does not god also show His armour is for deffense only, not offense? As we are not to go against others, as vegence is god's alone, yet we may use this against satan, but not against people. After all, we are all born in sin and falable, as well as many blinded by ignorance. Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but that of the Spirit. God Bless!!

JESUS SAYS : SLAY THEM !

Many statements of Jesus can be taken symbolically or metaphorically but this isn't one of them:

Lu:19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

The context shows He means it. The preceding verses Lu 19: 23 -26, and the following verse Lu 19 : 28 are surprisingly mundane, dealing with down-to-earth topics, without any hint of a "metaphorical" meaning. We see a financial transaction, then there seems to be a description of the usurers (26) prior to a trip to Jerusalem; in the middle of this, the blunt statement about slaying His enemies occurs.

So this isn't about symbolically defeating some spiritual enemy, but about slaying His human enemies. By the sound of it these usurers were making life difficult (the moneylenders in the Temple are an obvious analogy). There is nothing metaphorical here. There is no "spiritual enemy" here. Unreal metaphorical enemies cannot be "brought hither", unlike a real human enemy. And these enemies are to be slain while helpless before Him. There is no way of wriggling out of the basic reality of this command to Christians.

And this command is to all Christians. This is not an Old Testament passage which can therefore be ignored by mainstream "Christians".

Here, in the New Testament, the Jesus of peacenik fantasy reveals his true (black-and-red) colors, in accord with the wrathful YHWH of the OT:

Lu:19:23: Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
Lu:19:24: And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
Lu:19:25: (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
Lu:19:26: For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
Lu:19:27: But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Lu:19:28: And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

So who are these enemies of Jesus? If the association of usury and a trip to Jerusalem is not enough to give the answer away, reference to John 7 : 1 may help.

Jo 7 : 1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee, for he would not walk in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him".

Since they sought to kill Him, it is no surprise to find Him instructing His dsiciples to kill them.


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Christian Commando wrote:As a new member, I agree to a point, but would ask this- does not god also show His armour is for deffense only, not offense? As we are not to go against others, as vegence is god's alone, yet we may use this against satan, but not against people. After all, we are all born in sin and falable, as well as many blinded by ignorance. Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but that of the Spirit. God Bless!!

I must appologise for not responding to this in a timley manner. I was in Colorado this Spring and didnt see the response.

One place that is not covered by the armour you mentioned that is found in Ephesians, notice that it does NOT cover the back side. Today too many Christian feel they must run away from evil. We use this spiritual armour against satan and his little children ( John 8 : 44 ), and we should be daily about our Fathers business on the offense with the above armour found in Ephesians. You are correct, our battle is not against flesh and blood in this manner. You must also understand that the swords Christ commanded His followers were not spiritual!!! They were meant for defense, and He taught His Disicples to teach us to do as He taught them, and He taught them to obtain weapons, clearly. There are other illustrations in the above treatise that also point to physical arms.

As far as defense. We have been taught that we should shrink back in every asspect. We are in a position of defense of our nation and people and have been for 50 or more years! The problem is most Christians (read judeo) have been spiritually casterated by the false prophets in the pulpit. Instead of the Cross of Christ behind the pulpit, they should have a BIG set of casterating snips!!! The Brook Kishon awaits these traitors that do this intentionally for thier mammon too!! They have also been chemically casterated by fluoride and other forced medication from everywhere from the water supply, food supply, public school systems ect.... War was officially declared against us long ago by Esau/Edom and his band of cohorts following thier daddy the devil (Psalms 83).

The weapons of offense are spiritual, and very powerfull!!! Dont let anyone tell you that they arent!! James and John, known as the "sons of thunder" said to Christ, "Shall we call fire down upon them Lord?" Admitidly, they said it for all the wrong reasons, and Christ called them down for it saying, "You know not what spirit you are of". But what we often overlook is that THEY KNEW THEY COULD DO IT!!!! They studied at the feet of The King of Kings, the Word made flesh, The Mighty Christ and where do you think they learned that sort of AWSOME POWER was available to them?!!! Weapons more powerful than any earthly physical weapons are available to us,(His people) but we are not being taught by these false prophets in the churchianity to use them, or that they are even available.

To answer your question, yes, the weapons of offense are available, and at our disposal when we are taught how to properly use them. They are DIVINLY POWERFUL!!! The physical arms mentioned in the above treatise are available for defense, and we are commanded to have them at hand for defense of ourselves, and our family/posterity.

1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

We were taken without them firing a shot, and we WILL be delivered in a manner that we will only be able to give The Heavenly Father credit, just as the Red Sea deliverance from Pharoh.

Does my belated response make any sense?

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Thats a lot of words to explain a simple but inaccurate sentence.

I prefer the Ferrar Fenton transalation, which is the White Mans Bible, which reads:

"and forgive us our faults, as we forgive those offending us, for You would not lead us into temptation , but deliver us from its evils"



Sin is error from the Law. I respect the Law because it defines Sin. The Law frees me from the sacred cows of ignorant people..



Its 4:20 somewhere.

Jesus says yes!