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I recently read the thread about the Susan Atkins letters, the thread left me a bit confused, In the thread I ran across the statements that there is absolutely no forgiveness for Murderers.

Is this true? I have always believed from what I have read in Gods Holy word that the only unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

Please elaborate, thankyou.

swordofYHWH wrote:I recently read the thread about the Susan Atkins letters, the thread left me a bit confused, In the thread I ran across the statements that there is absolutely no forgiveness for Murderers.

Is this true? I have always believed from what I have read in Gods Holy word that the only unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

Please elaborate, thankyou.

swordofYHWH,

Ah! The Susan Atkins thread. There’s certainly a lot to read in there, lol.

You are absolutely correct in saying that the only unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

In her letter to me, so-called “Sexy Sadie” kept justifying her murders so I was being a tad hardcore with her internet "supporters."

The verse(s) in question is:

1Jn 3:15 “No murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.”

Of course this refers to the homicide of a fellow Israelite so the key words in this statement are “abiding in him.” Those who maliciously murder another lose their “blessed assurance” of eternal life while they live (thus it doesn’t abide "within" them). This is because they are in danger of the greater Judgement and listed as “without” the Kingdom:

Rev 22:14-15; “Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”

Can (and does) Yahweh forgive murderers? With God all things are possible.

Still, it would be very distressing to face the person you slew in life at the throne of Yahweh. We’re not talking about self-defense or war here – we’re talking the cold-blooded, premeditated murder of another human being (as Atkins did Tate), one of God’s most perfect and highest creations.

The Word is very strict against those who engage in “the way of Cain.” Yahweh is very clear:

Deu 5:17; “Thou shalt not kill.”

Num 35:30; “Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death.”

1Pe 4:15; “Let none of you suffer as a murderer.”

I hope that helps - murder is evil, period.

Under the Blood,

Thankyou Pastor!
I must admit the question was rhetorical.

Your advanced skills of explanation were sought after and I am very pleased that you helped to clear that up.

I didnt realize that the murderess still clung to some sense of elation in the killings and yes the killings were about as brutal and senseless as any have ever been, I believe them to be directly inspired by the filthy devil himself.

I grew up under the shadow of these terrible events and can remember the old folks talking about it even in the mid-seventies.

When Folks depart from Yashua they put themselves under control of an unclean and hateful bird.

We live in a dire hour when even the most seemingly harmful sin must be abhorred, I pray that our Lord will deliver his children even as the eight were carried above the waters in an ark.